Error in opening DB 2005-09-16 - By Carel-Jan Engel
Hello Frank,
Yes, I considered this. The list is not a replacement for internet
access.
I understand not anybody has metalink. However, netiquette/general list
guidelines are pretty explicit in doing your homework before bothering a
list.
This isn't the first time Deepak asked the list for answers he could
find easily himself. Just look at the VERY URGENT thread of this week.
He got the google hint in that thread as well. He did not reply about
failing internet access. He seems not to listen very well to hinds
regareding netiquette. That's why I think my reply was appropriate in
this occasion.
Besides, I replied Deepak with some more hints off-list, after he
replied with apologies to me off-list.
I had exactly the same question from a junior DBA at a customer's site
this week. It appeared Oracle got installed, and then patched. After
that a database was 'created' using dbca, choosing a seed database from
the install media. This needs to be patched by then.
It boils down to insufficient reading of the doc's and readme's that
accompany the patch. We all suffer from unpacking devices and start
using them, the same applies to software installs and patches: 'if
nothing works, then read the manual'. I would add: 'If the manual
doesn't give a clue, search Google, and then post to a list'
Mit freundlichen Gr??en,
Carel-Jan
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 10:17 +0200, Foelz.Frank wrote:
> Carel,
>
> not everybody who is enrolled here, has internet access on demand. Did
> you ever consider this ?
> It's not questions that bother......... but answers !
> > Frank <
>
>
>
>
>
> -- --Original Message-- --
> From: Carel-Jan Engel [mailto:cjpengel.dbalert@(protected)]
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:12 AM
> To: oracle.tutorials@(protected)
> Cc: oracle-l@(protected)
> Subject: Re: Error in opening DB
>
>
> Deepak,
>
> Try google with "ORA-39700 (See ORA-39700.ora-code.com): database must be opened with
> UPGRADE option".
>
> It's a good habit to search for answers yourself, before
> bothering a list. Besides, you will get the answer pretty much
> faster anyway.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carel-Jan Engel
>
> ===
> If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek
> Bok)
> ===
>
> On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 11:16 +0530, DBA Deepak wrote:
>
> > ORA-39700 (See ORA-39700.ora-code.com): database must be opened with UPGRADE option
>
>
===
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek Bok)
===
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Hello Frank,<BR>
<BR>
Yes, I considered this. The list is not a replacement for internet access.<BR>
I understand not anybody has metalink. However, netiquette/general list
guidelines are pretty explicit in doing your homework before bothering a list.
<BR>
<BR>
This isn't the first time Deepak asked the list for answers he could find
easily himself. Just look at the VERY URGENT thread of this week. He got the
google hint in that thread as well. He did not reply about failing internet
access. He seems not to listen very well to hinds regareding netiquette. That's
why I think my reply was appropriate in this occasion.<BR>
<BR>
Besides, I replied Deepak with some more hints off-list, after he replied with
apologies to me off-list.<BR>
<BR>
I had exactly the same question from a junior DBA at a customer's site this
week. It appeared Oracle got installed, and then patched. After that a database
was 'created' using dbca, choosing a seed database from the install media. This
needs to be patched by then. <BR>
<BR>
It boils down to insufficient reading of the doc's and readme's that accompany
the patch. We all suffer from unpacking devices and start using them, the same
applies to software installs and patches: 'if nothing works, then read the
manual'. I would add: 'If the manual doesn't give a clue, search Google, and
then post to a list'<BR>
<BR>
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<BR>
<BR>
Carel-Jan<BR>
<BR>
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 10:17 +0200, Foelz.Frank wrote: <BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#0000ff">Carel,</FONT></FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> </FONT><BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#0000ff">not everybody who is enrolled here,
has internet access on demand. Did you ever consider this ?</FONT></FONT><BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#0000ff">It's not questions that bother........
. but answers !</FONT></FONT><BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">> Frank <</FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">-- --Original Message-- --</FONT><
/FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">From:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT
COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE="2"> Carel-Jan Engel [mailto:cjpengel.dbalert@(protected)
.nl] </FONT></FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">Sent:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT
COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE="2"> Friday, September 16, 2005 10:12 AM</FONT><
/FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">To:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT
COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE="2"> oracle.tutorials@(protected)</FONT></FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">Cc:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT
COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE="2"> oracle-l@(protected)</FONT></FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT
COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE="2"> Re: Error in opening DB</FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Deepak,</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Try google with "ORA-39700 (See ORA-39700.ora-code.com): database must be
opened with UPGRADE option".</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">It's a good habit to search for answers yourself,
before bothering a list. Besides, you will get the answer pretty much faster
anyway.</FONT><BR>
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Best regards,<BR>
<BR>
Carel-Jan Engel<BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 11:16 +0530, DBA Deepak
wrote:</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">ORA-39700 (See ORA-39700.ora-code.com): database must be opened with
UPGRADE option</FONT><BR>
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If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek Bok)<BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#ff0000">DBA</FONT></FONT><FONT SIZE="2">!ert,
Independent Oracle consultancy </FONT><BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">Kastanjelaan 61C</FONT><BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">2743 BX Waddinxveen</FONT><BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">The Netherlands</FONT><BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">tel. +31 (0) 182 64 04 28</FONT><BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">fax +31 (0) 182 64 04 29</FONT><BR>
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